Thursday 1 May 2008

Public School vs. Private School

One of the decisions we need to make upon returning to Brunei is choosing which school to send our children to. Like other parents, obviously we want the best for them. And this would probably mean a private school instead of a public one. But I keep asking myself how do we really define ‘the best school’? And why do we Bruneians always have the perception that a private school (in particular the primary level) is better than the public school.

Here in England both my children go to a public school. And fortunately for us (and them) the school is one of ‘the’ best schools in this part of England. Parents are willing to move in the area just so that their children can go to this school. I remember the headmaster was telling us that the number of children who were applying for the reception class (kindergarten 2) was always triple the number of available spots. That’s how good it is.

But most importantly, my children love their school. Even if they are unwell, they will want to go to their school. They’re happy, we’re happy. We are even happier when last month, during parents-teacher meeting, we were told that our children were doing extremely well in school. Our eldest daughter who is only 6 and in year 1 seems to be on advance levels in most of her subjects. And I don’t know how their system works, but my daughter proceeds with her advance learning in her class, instead of waiting for the rest of the children.

Now, somebody tell me where can I get a similar school in Brunei, without burning a big hole in our savings account? Is there a public school in Brunei as good as this? And most importantly, what makes a good school?

I don’t know about you, but I believe ‘teachers’ make a good school. For example, there are many other schools in our area where we live, with the same system, the same facilities, but my kids’ school is ranked one of the best. If all schools are the same, then the only differences between them are the teachers. So, a good school must be due to good teachers. The same must also apply in Brunei. However, I have yet to hear a good public primary school (the one that every parent wants to send their children to).

This brings me to the next question, why do we Bruneians always think that our children will do much well in a private school? The MOE’s statistics shows that 43 per cent of about 69,000 children go to private primary schools despite a higher teacher/student ratio in the private school (1 teacher to 15 students in the private schools and 1 teacher to 9 students in the public schools). [Is there statistics on the performance of public/private students in exams?]

Using the above reasoning (since almost all schools follow the same curriculum set by the MOE), then could the reason why people think the private scholls are better is because the teachers and/or the quality of teaching are better than those in the public schools (who I believe are more well paid and more qualified with schools which have better facilities)? If this is true, then I would love to know WHY then our public teachers are not doing well? If this is not true then why do public teachers and the MOE’s officers and staff (who are looking after the quality of public schools) send their own children to private schools (which just show their own lack of faith in the quality of their own teachings/system)?

Or is it because of our ‘materialistic’ mentality? Where our society sees public schools, despite better facilities and more qualified teachers, as second rated. Where parents would rather have a mountain of debt, then be seen sending their children to a public school?

All the talk about the Ministry of Education’s SPN21 is quite interesting and I hope the results will not only improve our education system in Brunei but can also help change the general perception of the public schools. Because at the moment, as much as I want to argue and convince myself that both my husband and I are the products of public schools and we turn out to be OK, I still cannot make myself send my children to a public school. Simply because I don’t have the faith :(.

Salaam.

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Anonymous said...

I was told that government school teachers are paid more than private schools teachers here.

And as I understand it, we send our kids to private school because "every Tom, Dick and Harry are in government schools" while private schools are perceived (correctly or incorrectly) to be more selective of the quality of their students.

Anonymous said...

Believe me, you won't find any best public ("govt" school in Brunei context)school in Brunei when you return! Private schools in Brunei are not equally that good either with regards to the quality of teachers. What makes people think that the private schools are better are because we pay for what we wanted; meaning parents' commitment is very high. Consequently, teachers fear that they are not doing well as parents can be very vocal. Unlike public school parents, they are complacent, because the schools are free, and they leave all the responsibilty of raising the children to the school! Parental involvement is very important if you wish to see your children suceed. Hence, send your child to any school, but get involved in their study, education and development; show your interest!

Anonymous said...

Some government schools are crowded, especially in some residential areas. I know of one school which has to use the hall as classrooms (partitioned off into 3 classrooms). So I think the area you live in does play a factor too.

At the end of the day teachers will be the most important factor, be it in public or private schools. I don't think you can generalise private school teachers as being better. To feed students the curriculum (and producing high scoring students) is one thing, and to develop their learning abilities is another.

I don't have a thorough knowledge of SPN21, but I think one area the govt should be looking into is diversifying the curriculum and supporting (not just encouraging) more extra curricular activities from the earliest level.

Anonymous said...

I send my kids to a private school because they teach English right from Kindergarten level. In a public school, (I was told) subjects are thought in Malay from Primary 1 to 4. This 3 years break will somehow break their momentum in picking up the English Language. At least for me, their ability to speak and write English is Numero Uno and we cant deny the fact that English is a widely used, even when we are stranded in some remote land in China, we still converse in English :).

When they get to PSR up to A levels.. Their English comprehension helps them through the other subjects. In fact, helps them a lot.

Having said that, I also want my kids to be fluent in their mother tongue (Malay) and I achieve this by sending them to Ugama school in the afternoon.

I must say all my kids are doing well in their studies.. although my youngest daughter is starting to end her sentences with "bulih kali ahhh" hahaha..

Anonymous said...

aku belum ada anak..... i dont think i wud send my anak to ugama school. basically i see it as kesian and mengalih anak, from morning till 5.30pm. maybe i send them private like iqra in the weekends. tantu belajar ugama. i dont see any use of ugama school. kaau ada pun it wont bring any impact towards thier life. i belive tani sebagai indung shud just show examplen how we brought up them. if we pray shurely anak will ikut kan.. so bringing up is important. just like roguee econimist, masa ani anakny di uk inda jua sekolah ugama kan. tapi didikan dari parents ada. So i dont think i send my kids to ugama school.

Anonymous said...

I sent my son to Ugama school in "Darjah 0" and then "Darjah 1" gradually but he stopped half-way because he said they didn't learn much but played most of the time.

I tend to agree with unqualified economist in that what impressed me most about private schooling - be it in JIS, ISB, Yayasan, St Andrew's, St George's or Chung Hua, etc - is the quality par excellence in the teaching of two of the 'make or break' subjects i.e. English and Mathematics!

I happened to watch for myself last week an Oratory Speech in English which was SUCCESSFULLY organised for the first time by the Yayasan Sultan Haji Hassanal Bolkiah School in which 26 private junior secondary school students competed and almost ALL of them spoke with such polished finesse.

My son scored 5 A's in his Primary 6 (PSR) Exams 3 years ago and was selected to attend one of the Government Science schools. After finishing his Form 1 in that school he decided against my advice to move back to his old private school where he fits in perfectly and in which he feels much more suited to study.

So I hope he will do well in this year's PMB Examination (which is the last year Bruneian students are required to sit for it!). Personally, I would love him to continue doing his 'O' Levels in the Science College in Jalan Muara because I believe in the teaching quality and conducive environment there. I have personally met the current Acting Principal of MSPSBS who looks to me an experienced and professional senior educator...:)

If I as a concerned parent were to be in a dilemma as to which school is the best, I would go to the extreme of either sending my kids to Jerudong International School (next to impossible!) or simply to a "Pesantren" in Indonesia or a "Madrasah Pondok" in Malaysia.

Anonymous said...

I guess we as parents (with kids) will have to make that call as to which schools they go to or not go to. Ultimately, our decisions will affect their future.

What works for me probably might not work for all. As for my kids going to Ugama school, it was upon their requests jua. They felt that the Ugama subjects thought in their morning or afternoon schools are not enough. In their Ugama school, there is Ibadat, Tauhid, Fiqh, Sejarah, Mengaji, Sembahyang Berjemaah and many other things that cant be covered in a once a week private tuition.

Just like the last Anonymous, My daughter who scored 5As in her PSRs also opted out of Science School. She is now in St Andrews and will be sitting for her PMB this year. (She graduated from her Ugama school and khatam her Al Quraan)

Yeah maybe they play a little bit, now and then but thats what's schooling is all about. A bit of play and networking.. Why limit their social cirles..So they learn a bit of our Brunei sense of humour.. thats a risk I am willing to make haha.. Orang Brunei jua kali ketani ani..

Lain lah kalau we are not working and are full time parents.. we can teach them at home. But not all of us are privileged to not work. Still have to work, earn a living and feed the kids.

Oh.. I forgot to mention earlier that my kids also belajar mengaji di sana jua untuk menghalusi their Al-Quraan reading.

The thought of sending the kids to a Pesantren in Indonesia is an interesting one. It has crossed my mind and I am still considering it. I happen to know a few Ustaz in Indon who are operating their own Pesantren. Very sederhana outfit but kids age 10 to 15 hafaz Al-Quran at a very young age.. MasyaAllah...

Now thats really Extreme.... Extremely Good I think!

Of course, banar tu what the 4th anonymous said atu about leading by example.. In addition to bersembahyang berjemaah di rumah, bertahlil and mengaji, we also teach the kids that in life ani nothing comes easy..that they have to work for it and earn it..dari damit ani tah we instill this.

At least thats our formula lah and I disclaim.. might not work for others...

Anonymous said...

I would strongly advise the one and only unqualified economist to not send his kids with God-given intelligence to any "Pesantren" in Indonesia simply because the Brunei Darussalam National Accreditation Council (BDNAC) of the Ministry of Education (MoE) Brunei will never recognise their qualifications, I think (or I hope I think wrong!).

My two children are in a private Chinese school so their advantage (may be useful in future job markets overseas) is their good command of Mandarin apart from Malay and English. But I still have the biggest responsibility as a parent to guide them on the much more important spiritual aspects of life which is most useful and beneficial for the Hereafter!

Actually, I am a strong advocator for the Integrated Education System that was aborted some years back. One poor excuse why I could not send my kids to Ugama school was the inconvenience for me to send them to 2 different schools in one day at different times. If the "Sistem Bersepadu" had been implemented, that would have killed two birds with one stone, so to speak, for most parents.;)

However, I admire one acquaintance who has advised his kids to stop their schooling in JIS and send them to the "Madrasah or Tahfiz" in Malaysia. Probably they could still continue with their tertiary education in Islamic universities in Malaysia (I don't know if the new UNISSA in Brunei Darussalam would accept them) or in the Middle East like Jordan, Egypt, etc. Well, for the future of our younger generation, their "IMAN" or Faith must be fully intact.

I would like to know in greater details the much-hyped/talked about "Sistem Pendidikan Negara 21" (SPN21) or the National Education System toward the 21st Century but not much information even in the MoE's website as yet!

Anonymous said...

The SPN 21, as I was made to understand, was the result of the work of Bujang Sigandam and kuncu-kuncunya...they create sthg just for the sake of leaving a legacy once they are not around. What is wrong with the current system? Have they done any research so as to recommend the mplementation of spn21 in 2009? nothing is wrong actually, it's just that the heads of schools need to be more vigilant, highly visible in schools, and provide leadership to his/her staff...this will result in the improvement of the teachers' quality of teaching, and children will learn better. Even if you have a teacher with a phD qualification, it won't guarantee you with high quality learning!so heads of school and teachers must work collaboratively because - children matter!

Anonymous said...

I couldn't agree more with you Mr Anonymous! You should be a Member of the Legislative Council to raise this all-important issue of Education for the bright future of Bruneian schoolchildren.

Above all else, education should be given topmost priority in the National Budget. Too much money being spent on developmental infrastructure may lead to unnecessary wastage caused by amongst others corruption between key governmental decision-makers and private contractors, etc.

It would have been much more worthwhile and beneficial ("lebih berbaloi dan berkat/rahmat") if the Government of His Majesty the Sultan and Yang Di-Pertuan of Brunei Darussalam to spend more on SCHOLARSHIPS to deservingly good students of the nation to pursue their studies in local tertiary institutions (be it Gov't-run or privately-owned!) or abroad.

Why should number of scholarships to intelligent Bruneian youths be reduced and limited nowadays? The student population have greatly increased and not many Bruneian parents could afford to send their bright children to further their studies with today's rising costs of living. And the national revenues from our country's natural resources are sufficient!

Anonymous said...

I think there is a misconception in your article. A public school - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_school_(UK) - in the UK means an independent school, where funding is predominantly private. Hence, it's the equivalent of private schools in Brunei.

We send out kids to private (or public, with regards to UK terminology) schools. So when one hears of a good private school in Brunei, that can be translated to a ood, using UK terminology, public school. Confusing? Indeed.

Law Student

Anonymous said...

The student population in Brunei Darussalam has pretty much increased tremendously in the last few years so Government (and not Public, as rightly pointed out by above anon.) schools are gonna face tougher challenges in the days ahead. The teaching quality in both Private and Government schools will have to be improved, sooner rather than later.

My wife is a qualified teacher in a Gov't Primary School in a small Kampong. As much as I want to help her to try and be more creative in her teaching methodology, somehow most teachers like her are bound by certain set norms, rules and regulations as dictated by the national standard curriculum.

But the way I observe her school environment, I figure there are many avenues for change (if not drastic ones) e.g. ICT-learning! Her school has one of the best ICT labs but it is under-utilised:(.

I can understand that the school's ICT 'Teacher-in-charge' is an HND graduate from ITB thus she has no basic professional qualification in teaching per se. So why doesn't the Education Ministry or Schools Department do something about this issue of helping such school staff to gain Teaching Diploma or Degree in Education since they can always be accepted into the Institute of Education faculty in UBD, ain't it?

All teachers should be encouraged to go the distance by enrolling in 'On-Line' degree or post-grad courses BUT the 'old-fashioned' BDNAC still will never recognise such internationally-recognised and valid distance learning thingy!

Anonymous said...

I recall having bought a small book on "Lateral Thinking" by world-renowned thinker, Dr Edward de Bono in the late 80s. I felt that it had quite an impact on my personal development although I am a failure in the academic world.

I found out that in Singapore, there is even a school dedicated to the Creative Thinking Skills techniques of Dr de Bono's being taught to much younger kids now. And it has been existence for donkeys of years in Singapore.

If I were the Pehin Minister of Education, I would give such an excellent new way of thinking a shot in the school curriculum!

For a start his ministry could personally invite the well-travelled Dr de Bono to the Abode of Peace to give a special look-see into the new SPN21 that the MOE is so much passionate about.

A big-time talk or Forum with the 'Lateral Thinker' Edward de Bono as Key Speaker would be a great idea to have in Brunei D;) It would spark a mind-set change?

Anonymous said...

Public school or private school? It does not really matter - at least in our experience so far in the older of our two children. She went through 7 years of public school (Lower/Upper Secondary plus two years 'A' levels) and still turned out to be a pretty amazing person. 90% of the effort comes from the individual herself (they need to possess a passion for what they are doing), 9% comes from the parents who provide the unwavering support and the right environment at home. The remaining 1% is the school. OK, the number may be a bit extreme but I hope I make my point.

(DLDFW)

Anonymous said...

Hmmm..hope for watever reasons you choose is not from a social standpoint, translated in malay means, utk org kebanyakan and utk middle to upper class.I used to study in the UK with a different lifestyle..evrything ikut cara western and use to adopt it when I return to Brunei. U know what, I continue to adopt it. Bt it was all irrelevant as I realised as time passes by..I am in Brunei for goodness sake and I nd to adopt to Brunei lifestyle with Brunei based needs.

Coming back to your choice school, whilst I will nt be too generalising,I think the distinction shouldn't be made of private and public school and also depends wat yr child needs.Different children have different needs.

I hv friends who sends their children to ISB cos they think it is the BEST school in Brunei.At the expense of wat I think, missing out on Ugama studies (to me this is important).The long term social structure is perhaps also nt suited for Bruneians.Expats send their kids there cos they move around and International schools will ensure they stick to the same education system.Unless u move round (outside Brunei I mean) in yr job, this may nt be a good option.I would rather save the expensive school fee$$ in the primary years and save it for their tertiary schooling.Here's some help, if any to you:

If yr children resume back to primary school, u may want to consider private schools.Reason:Most hv better teachers and teaching does nt depend on facilities and equipment. I tend to choose small "boutique" schools vs large "franchised" type of schools. Small schools tend to focus on their students.Downside, u loose on the ECA and facilities offered by larger schools.

If secondary school, then government school maybe yr ideal choice. Reason being, education needs aid, such as labs.Socialising also needs sports facilities wh are offered by most government schools.Up to a point, with the recent popularity of futsals, some government schools evn hv futsal courts installed.

In choosing schools,other Brunei factors include proximity of school to house, school to place of work, school to ugama school. U can hire drivers bt I realise that time spend with kids in the car is also very valuable wh is also part of the "bigger" education.

At the end of the day, pls dont forget, the most important education also comes from home.

Anonymous said...

Hmm, coming from a standpoint of a student that went through private, public and ugama schools.

I was in St. Andrew's (SAS) till form 3, den continued my o levels and a levels in public schools. And of course finished ugama.

First I would like to defend Ugama classes, I thought they were great, I learned brunei things, like bruneian games(gtah,simban), songs, and of course da brunei language(and a lil kedayan),which I didn't get from St Andrews.I am a penyokong of being Bruneian.Studied Al Quran, the rules of Smbhyng, the history of Islam.( some people still dont know dat aurat lelaki is da full body except face and hands for non muhrims-its in da solat (blue) book)

For private schools I have to agree the standard of english is much better.( but my grammar still sux )

Public schools are great especially in my high school and Maktab Duli, quality teachers (da ones I've got for my subjects, I don't know about others),der new and young, but my God they were great.but I have to say something about the book published by our country.

In SAS we used the Singapore textbooks for our learning (english and maths) in my days.I remember my younger brother bringing back the new brunei's secondary english textbook. I went through it and found it childish,i remember my primary 6 singapore textbook to be more "bisai".I am not mengecil2kan brunei's effort, but there's so much improvement that we could do.

And ugama's textbook, I think we've been using it for too many years now,and it's malaysian textbooks,brunei should produce textbooks of its own.( remember this-apa hukumnya pabila...... )

Anonymous said...

I too was in a dilemma with regards to my children's education. I was not really happy with the curriculum. I was even appalled with the product of our educational system. I happen to interview applicants for the post of mechanic and standard of students coming from technical schools were below standard. It struck me that my kids might end up the same way or worse.Both my kids had 4A and 1B in PSR. I can see that they were demoralised when they could not get into the Science school. Thier grades drop drastically.I then had to sacrifice my career and find a job outside of Brunei in a country where i know my kids can excel with the support of a better educational program. Now all of them are doing exceptionally well and already have an idea for their career path. On their summer breaks they are doing community service which is part of life skills program.My daughter is hoping to be in medicine and my son has set his sights on becoming a pilot.Both of them have a balanced sched of academic and sports activity. What i like most is I'm part of the PTA where i can voice my opinions and my vote counts as to who'll be the next superintendent. IN this way we're sure that those who we elect will fight for our school. Its a very enriching and empowering experience to be involved in the PTA that actually works. We also get to say how the school manages its budget bec we are part of the fund raising committee.
As for the religious side i thought it'd be a problem but alhamdulilah Allah is great. We hv a moderate islamic community of muslims from all over and our faith/practice remains intact despite all the interruptions of a cosmopolitan environment.

Anonymous said...

Heh, this is very late, but I want to make a comment. I've studied in a local and highly regarded private school for a few years, and I've observed public school teachers teaching students. All I can say is, most of the private school teachers I've encountered are terrible. A lot of them teach towards the exam, drilling and driling--their first priority is to get MARKS rather than to understand the subject. Most students in private schools do well because of one thing: PRIVATE TUITION.

Hopefully the SPN21 curriculum will change things, and move away from teaching towards the exams.

Despite all the negative things I've said, the academic atmosphere in private schools, is much better and the English is definitely a lot better than in public schools.

Anonymous said...

I stumbled across this blogpost and saw your blogpost about private schools and state schools in Brunei. Nothing wrong with it and have nothing against it/ BUT!:

To the Anonymous person who made the comment on 6 December 2008:

Well firstly let me say something: you clearly have not been to a private school before haven't you? And your generalization about private school teachers are only limited to that few that you've "encountered" and further imply the fact that they are "terrible".

Not every private school teachers "teach towards the exam, drilling and driling--their first priority is to get MARKS rather than to understand the subject". It's a big mistake of generalization of private school teachers. And you even went further into over-generalize the fact that "Most students in private schools do well because of one thing: PRIVATE TUITION."

Well let me ask you one thing shall I?: Doesn't govt school students here rely on both private tuition and licensed tuition schools for help as well?

It shows that you've not encountered or even experienced private schools enough to make a valid enough point to back you up.

I spent 12 years in a private school and 2 more years in a govt school and let me tell you one other thing I've noticed in the govt school I attended: A couple of my college tutors (in the govt school/college I attend) were often late and often not bothered to apologize to the class. Not just that: we handed in our assignments and they always give it back to us late. On several occasions those teachers even admitted to loosing our assignments! Now just how OUTRAGEOUS is that?

So in all I have to say that the comment you made about private schools reflects the pure jealousy and strong distaste you have for private schools and over-generalize them.

I have to say that it's just so sad you don't know much and your knowledge of private schools are limited and, to a certain extent, flawed.

P/s: If I were to come up with a list of reasons why private schools are better that govt schools in Brunei I could come up with a lot. But since that I know this kind of things are unnecessary I just don't have to do it. After all, haters are gonna hate!

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